Monk'ing, runes and you - Guild Wars Forums

koneko · Jan 31, 2006, 09:27 PM // 21:27

How many (superior) runes should a person put onto a set of armor for a monk? Or, rather, what is an acceptable amount of health for a monk normally for PvE?

I have been using three superior runes (Vigor + Healing/Protection + Divine Favor) along with with a Brohn's Staff, and I manage to stay alive most of the time with 440 health. Would it be better if I only used two runes (Vigor + Healing/Protection, drop the Divine Favor rune) on my monk instead, having more health instead of more attribute points into Divine Favor?

Stealthy Trapper · Jan 31, 2006, 09:47 PM // 21:47

Obviously you need the super healing/protecting depending on what you are doing in the mission. I have been monking for a long time and I actually do quite well with 385 hp (don't remember what I am using). The thing about super divine is that if you have 15 in divine and 16 in healing then it almost doubles your healing and with 15 in divine and 16 in potection it helps the healing monk alot because everytime you protect a team mate it also heals greatly. So super vigor + super divine + super healing/protecting is a perfect match even if your hp goes below 400. Just bring along a protecting skill for yourself in case you are attacked and run, run, run. This is not the same for pvp though. Just pve.

Mia Deschain · Jan 31, 2006, 09:54 PM // 21:54

If you are in a good group who are dedicated to keeping you safe then sure, use three superior runes. Keep in mind the farther you get in the game the more difficult missions and quests get. Most ppl use just one, maybe 2. But if I was going back to an earlier area to help someone then I'd use three since it's easier to stay alive there.

romO · Jan 31, 2006, 10:09 PM // 22:09

in pve thats probably fine. but in tombs, only sup vigor and sup healing for a healer and only sup vigor and minor prot on a prot. in gvg, no superiors ever.

Excer · Jan 31, 2006, 10:21 PM // 22:21

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Originally Posted by romO

in pve thats probably fine. but in tombs, only sup vigor and sup healing for a healer and only sup vigor and minor prot on a prot. in gvg, no superiors ever.

actually, the standard boon prot build uses sup vigor+sup divine favor+minor prot. they're used in both pvp and pve and are quite effective

Mandy Memory · Feb 01, 2006, 06:38 AM // 06:38

sup vigor negates a major Hp pen or most of a Sup...so it doesnt count.

But go for 55 Hp like all the other monks! WOO

ange1 · Feb 01, 2006, 07:21 AM // 07:21

usually only take one superior, not like it matters much

koneko · Feb 01, 2006, 08:37 AM // 08:37

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If you are in a good group who are dedicated to keeping you safe then sure, use three superior runes.

That's the problem, groups that I go with don't understand that I have no self healing ability since I'm fiddling around with energy and bonds and then I die. Bleh.

I can't push Healing/Divine up to 16/15 since I need to allow for points into Blood Magic for OoB...15-13-10 is how I had it set with the three-rune combination.

I just went on a run into FoW with only two superior runes (Vigor + Protection) along with my Bond/Barrier build. Energy from Blessed Signet was a lot tighter, but I found it was easier to keep Barrier up and keep my health above 50%.

Of course, I just had to lose my superior Healing rune when I was trying to salvage it out of my old armor.

Stealthy Trapper · Feb 01, 2006, 01:43 PM // 13:43

Thats the problem with super monk runes......they're not cheap. Multiple armors are a must and will save you in the long run.

Doctor Death · Feb 01, 2006, 02:47 PM // 14:47

Slightly off topic but, In respect of PvE most ppl "used to" stick with just the one Sup Rune. I have noticed recently that more ppl are using 2 or 3 sup runes especially on casters. The reason I can gather for this is that where as before when killed the onset of the DEATH PENALTY crippled your HP greatly when using many Sup runes as it takes -15% off your max HP before runes. BUT now we have in circulation those sweet sweet candy canes mmmmm to remove your DP.

*make my monk shake his fist at warriors that think 3 sup runes are acceptable*

Yichi · Feb 01, 2006, 02:53 PM // 14:53

Yeah its fu ntrying to keep a Leroy style warrior alive while hes got a sup weapon rune, sup str, and major tactics....

My monk runs 3 different sup runes on 3 different headpieces for the different types of builds i run and a sup vigor.
My ranger runs dual majors for bow attacks and only a sup on different headpiece for trapping and a sup vigor for both
My necro runs a sup rune on 2 different headpieces again dependin on the build and a sup vigor

PVP wise, normally i will only run one sup rune depending on the build. There has only been one or two times that a build called for me running more than one sup or having to add a major to the sup

Jan 31, 2006, 09:27 PM // 21:27	#1
koneko Site Contributor Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: 38??16′ N 140??52′ E Profession: Mo/Me	Monk'ing, runes and you How many (superior) runes should a person put onto a set of armor for a monk? Or, rather, what is an acceptable amount of health for a monk normally for PvE? I have been using three superior runes (Vigor + Healing/Protection + Divine Favor) along with with a Brohn's Staff, and I manage to stay alive most of the time with 440 health. Would it be better if I only used two runes (Vigor + Healing/Protection, drop the Divine Favor rune) on my monk instead, having more health instead of more attribute points into Divine Favor?

Jan 31, 2006, 09:54 PM // 21:54	#3
Mia Deschain Ascalonian Squire Join Date: Sep 2005 Profession: W/	Seems very situational to me.... If you are in a good group who are dedicated to keeping you safe then sure, use three superior runes. Keep in mind the farther you get in the game the more difficult missions and quests get. Most ppl use just one, maybe 2. But if I was going back to an earlier area to help someone then I'd use three since it's easier to stay alive there.

Jan 31, 2006, 09:47 PM // 21:47	#2
Stealthy Trapper Frost Gate Guardian Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Cincinnati, Ohio Guild: Knights Assassins [Kill] Profession: R/	Obviously you need the super healing/protecting depending on what you are doing in the mission. I have been monking for a long time and I actually do quite well with 385 hp (don't remember what I am using). The thing about super divine is that if you have 15 in divine and 16 in healing then it almost doubles your healing and with 15 in divine and 16 in potection it helps the healing monk alot because everytime you protect a team mate it also heals greatly. So super vigor + super divine + super healing/protecting is a perfect match even if your hp goes below 400. Just bring along a protecting skill for yourself in case you are attacked and run, run, run. This is not the same for pvp though. Just pve.

Jan 31, 2006, 10:09 PM // 22:09	#4
romO Wilds Pathfinder Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Chicago Guild: Idiot Savants [iQ] Profession: Mo/	in pve thats probably fine. but in tombs, only sup vigor and sup healing for a healer and only sup vigor and minor prot on a prot. in gvg, no superiors ever.

Feb 01, 2006, 06:38 AM // 06:38	#6
Mandy Memory Desert Nomad Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: USA Guild: Xen of Sigils [XoO] Profession: W/	sup vigor negates a major Hp pen or most of a Sup...so it doesnt count. But go for 55 Hp like all the other monks! WOO

Feb 01, 2006, 07:21 AM // 07:21	#7
ange1 Wilds Pathfinder Join Date: Aug 2005 Profession: Mo/	usually only take one superior, not like it matters much

Feb 01, 2006, 01:43 PM // 13:43	#9
Stealthy Trapper Frost Gate Guardian Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Cincinnati, Ohio Guild: Knights Assassins [Kill] Profession: R/	Thats the problem with super monk runes......they're not cheap. Multiple armors are a must and will save you in the long run.

Feb 01, 2006, 02:47 PM // 14:47	#10
Doctor Death Frost Gate Guardian Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Manchester, UK Guild: Currently Guildless Profession: W/N	Slightly off topic but, In respect of PvE most ppl "used to" stick with just the one Sup Rune. I have noticed recently that more ppl are using 2 or 3 sup runes especially on casters. The reason I can gather for this is that where as before when killed the onset of the DEATH PENALTY crippled your HP greatly when using many Sup runes as it takes -15% off your max HP before runes. BUT now we have in circulation those sweet sweet candy canes mmmmm to remove your DP. make my monk shake his fist at warriors that think 3 sup runes are acceptable

Feb 01, 2006, 02:53 PM // 14:53	#11
Yichi Furnace Stoker Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Guild Hall, Vent, Guesting, PvE, or the occasional HA match... Guild: Dark Alley [dR]	Yeah its fu ntrying to keep a Leroy style warrior alive while hes got a sup weapon rune, sup str, and major tactics.... My monk runs 3 different sup runes on 3 different headpieces for the different types of builds i run and a sup vigor. My ranger runs dual majors for bow attacks and only a sup on different headpiece for trapping and a sup vigor for both My necro runs a sup rune on 2 different headpieces again dependin on the build and a sup vigor PVP wise, normally i will only run one sup rune depending on the build. There has only been one or two times that a build called for me running more than one sup or having to add a major to the sup